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		<title>Comment on EN 954-1 / ISO 13849-1:2008 Mandatory Implementation Date Change by Tweets that mention EN 954-1 / ISO 13849-1:2008 Mandatory Implementation Date Change &#124; Machinery Safety 101 -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention EN 954-1 / ISO 13849-1:2008 Mandatory Implementation Date Change &#124; Machinery Safety 101 -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Doug Nix and MachinerySafety, TJS Technical. TJS Technical said: RT @DougNix: EN 954-1 / ISO 13849-1:2008 Mandatory Implementation Date Change http://ow.ly/167Wfp [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on EU changes direction on EN ISO 13849-1 by EU changes direction on EN ISO 13849-1 EC Baby</title>
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		<dc:creator>EU changes direction on EN ISO 13849-1 EC Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on European Commission Delays EN ISO 13849-1 Implementation by European Commission Delays EN ISO 13849-1 Implementation EC Baby</title>
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		<dc:creator>European Commission Delays EN ISO 13849-1 Implementation EC Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read the original post:  European Commission Delays EN ISO 13849-1 Implementation [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on ESA Manufacturer Registration in Ontario, Canada by Doug Nix</title>
		<link>http://machinerysafety101.com/2009/03/16/esa-manufacturer-registration-in-ontario-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Nix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks tfortin for your post. The facts in my post will stand up to scrutiny, and at the moment registration is mandatory if only because ESA says it is. 

I can appreciate your position on this matter, and in fact it mirrors my original question posed to ESA - &quot;What is the legal basis for the Registry, since Regulation 438 does not mention it?&quot;. You are quite correct in saying that Regulation 438/07 does not mandate the registry. In fact there is no specific legislation that says that ESA must create and maintain such a registry. The regulation DOES require reporting of &quot;serious incidents&quot; [see Clause 8].

How can ESA go ahead and demand registration? It&#039;s simple - they are the AHJ in Ontario and have the legal mandate through the Electricity Act and the Regulations to protect the safety of the citizens of Ontario in whatever way they decide is appropriate. If they decide that a registry of manufacturers is the way to handle the problems with non-compliant products that is within their purview.

I think that making the statement that this is a &#039;tax grab&#039; is an unfortunate knee-jerk reaction. On the other hand I don&#039;t know that this process will actually help control the problem that it is intended to address.

In the mean time, I would recommend the following to everyone that disagrees, but wants to be able to continue to do business in the province: Pay the registration fee and register with ESA. 

THEN:
Write to the Minister of Small Business and Consumer Affairs, the Honourable Harinder Takar, infosbcs@ontario.ca. 
Write to the Premier of the Province, the Honourable Dalton McGuinty, https://www.premier.gov.on.ca/feedback/feedback.asp, or go to his web site and get the physical address and WRITE. 
Write to the head of ESA, Mr. Bob Stelzer, bob.stelzer@electricalsafety.on.ca and the VP of Regulatory Affairs, Mr. Peter Marcucci, peter.marcucci@electricalsafety.on.ca. 

These are the people who must listen and who can change things.

I am not now, nor have I ever been an employee of ESA, nor does our company have any other relationship with ESA for any purpose. We are an independent product safety consultancy located in Ontario.

Keep the comments coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks tfortin for your post. The facts in my post will stand up to scrutiny, and at the moment registration is mandatory if only because ESA says it is. </p>
<p>I can appreciate your position on this matter, and in fact it mirrors my original question posed to ESA &#8211; &#8220;What is the legal basis for the Registry, since Regulation 438 does not mention it?&#8221;. You are quite correct in saying that Regulation 438/07 does not mandate the registry. In fact there is no specific legislation that says that ESA must create and maintain such a registry. The regulation DOES require reporting of &#8220;serious incidents&#8221; [see Clause 8].</p>
<p>How can ESA go ahead and demand registration? It&#8217;s simple &#8211; they are the AHJ in Ontario and have the legal mandate through the Electricity Act and the Regulations to protect the safety of the citizens of Ontario in whatever way they decide is appropriate. If they decide that a registry of manufacturers is the way to handle the problems with non-compliant products that is within their purview.</p>
<p>I think that making the statement that this is a &#8216;tax grab&#8217; is an unfortunate knee-jerk reaction. On the other hand I don&#8217;t know that this process will actually help control the problem that it is intended to address.</p>
<p>In the mean time, I would recommend the following to everyone that disagrees, but wants to be able to continue to do business in the province: Pay the registration fee and register with ESA. </p>
<p>THEN:<br />
Write to the Minister of Small Business and Consumer Affairs, the Honourable Harinder Takar, <a href="mailto:infosbcs@ontario.ca">infosbcs@ontario.ca</a>.<br />
Write to the Premier of the Province, the Honourable Dalton McGuinty, <a href="https://www.premier.gov.on.ca/feedback/feedback.asp" rel="nofollow">https://www.premier.gov.on.ca/feedback/feedback.asp</a>, or go to his web site and get the physical address and WRITE.<br />
Write to the head of ESA, Mr. Bob Stelzer, <a href="mailto:bob.stelzer@electricalsafety.on.ca">bob.stelzer@electricalsafety.on.ca</a> and the VP of Regulatory Affairs, Mr. Peter Marcucci, <a href="mailto:peter.marcucci@electricalsafety.on.ca">peter.marcucci@electricalsafety.on.ca</a>. </p>
<p>These are the people who must listen and who can change things.</p>
<p>I am not now, nor have I ever been an employee of ESA, nor does our company have any other relationship with ESA for any purpose. We are an independent product safety consultancy located in Ontario.</p>
<p>Keep the comments coming!</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESA Manufacturer Registration in Ontario, Canada by tfortin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DO NOT REGISTER WITH THE ESA
This post is very misleading.
Ontario Regulation 438-/07 does NOT mandate any registraion requirements. This is a tax grab.
See www.ontrak.net/esafee.htm for details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO NOT REGISTER WITH THE ESA<br />
This post is very misleading.<br />
Ontario Regulation 438-/07 does NOT mandate any registraion requirements. This is a tax grab.<br />
See <a href="http://www.ontrak.net/esafee.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ontrak.net/esafee.htm</a> for details.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESA Manufacturer Registration in Ontario, Canada by DougNix</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to ManufacturerZone for giving us a TrackBack on this article!</description>
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		<title>Comment on ESA Manufacturer Registration in Ontario, Canada by ESA Manufacturer Registration in Ontario, Canada &#124; Machinery &#8230; &#124; ManufacturerZone.Com</title>
		<link>http://machinerysafety101.com/2009/03/16/esa-manufacturer-registration-in-ontario-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome to the New Machinery Safety 101 Podcast blog! by DougNix</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

Thanks for letting our readers know about this free guide. The EU also publishes a number of free guides:

Community legislation on machinery : Comments on Directive 98/37/EC  
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/mechan_equipment/machinery/guide/content.htm

Machinery : Useful facts in relation to Directive 98/37/EC
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/mechan_equipment/machinery/facts.pdf

There are a number of other guides on other related directives, such as Low Voltage, EMC and Pressure equipment. For the complete list see:

http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/publicat.html

A link to more general information, including guidance documents and the text of 2006/42/EC can be found at http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/mechan_equipment/machinery/index.htm

For any readers that considered going to the 2008 IEEE PSES Symposium but chose not to go, Steve Brody of Brooks Automation gave an excellent presentation on the changes that the new version of the directive will bring for machinery manufacturers. His presentation is available to IEEE PSES members via the PSES web site: http:www.ieee-pses.org.

Also, the IEEE&#039;s Toronto Section is in the process of forming a joint Chapter of the Product Safety Engineering Society and the Industrial Electronics Society. I&#039;ll post more information here as things develop.

Doug Nix
Compliance InSight Consulting Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Thanks for letting our readers know about this free guide. The EU also publishes a number of free guides:</p>
<p>Community legislation on machinery : Comments on Directive 98/37/EC<br />
<a href="http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/mechan_equipment/machinery/guide/content.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/mechan_equipment/machinery/guide/content.htm</a></p>
<p>Machinery : Useful facts in relation to Directive 98/37/EC<br />
<a href="http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/mechan_equipment/machinery/facts.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/mechan_equipment/machinery/facts.pdf</a></p>
<p>There are a number of other guides on other related directives, such as Low Voltage, EMC and Pressure equipment. For the complete list see:</p>
<p><a href="http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/publicat.html" rel="nofollow">http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/publicat.html</a></p>
<p>A link to more general information, including guidance documents and the text of 2006/42/EC can be found at <a href="http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/mechan_equipment/machinery/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/mechan_equipment/machinery/index.htm</a></p>
<p>For any readers that considered going to the 2008 IEEE PSES Symposium but chose not to go, Steve Brody of Brooks Automation gave an excellent presentation on the changes that the new version of the directive will bring for machinery manufacturers. His presentation is available to IEEE PSES members via the PSES web site: http:www.ieee-pses.org.</p>
<p>Also, the IEEE&#8217;s Toronto Section is in the process of forming a joint Chapter of the Product Safety Engineering Society and the Industrial Electronics Society. I&#8217;ll post more information here as things develop.</p>
<p>Doug Nix<br />
Compliance InSight Consulting Inc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome to the New Machinery Safety 101 Podcast blog! by MachineBuilding.net Editor</title>
		<link>http://machinerysafety101.com/2008/10/16/welcome-to-the-new-machinery-safety-101-podcast-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>MachineBuilding.net Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The European Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC, which comes into force on 29 December 2009, is of interest to machine builders around the world, not just those based in Europe. MachineBuilding.net, the website and email newsletter for machine builders and system integrators, has just published the second edition of its popular free &#039;Guide to the New Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC&#039; - see http://www.machinebuilding.net/n/n0265.htm

Jon Severn
Editor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The European Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC, which comes into force on 29 December 2009, is of interest to machine builders around the world, not just those based in Europe. MachineBuilding.net, the website and email newsletter for machine builders and system integrators, has just published the second edition of its popular free &#8216;Guide to the New Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC&#8217; &#8211; see <a href="http://www.machinebuilding.net/n/n0265.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.machinebuilding.net/n/n0265.htm</a></p>
<p>Jon Severn<br />
Editor</p>
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